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Bangor Spectator Directory 1970
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1) Main Street Boys' School, Bangor, Co. Down 9th June 1909
David Orr, Head Master - Dear Sir, Would you please send me an entrance form
for the Scholarship Exam. held towards end of present month, & oblige, Yours
truly. D. Orr Sent 10/VI/09
2) Municipal Technical School, Bangor, Co. Down - The Prizes for the Session
1910-1911 will be distributed by the Lady Clanmorris in the Commercial Room
of the Technical School on Saturday, 16th December at 3.30 p.m.
"Spectator"
3) Municipal Technical School, Bangor, Co. Down - The Prizes for the Session
1911-1912 will be distributed by the Miss Connor in the Commercial Room of
the Technical School on Saturday, 21st December at 3.30 p.m.
"Spectator"
4) Bangor Technical School Session 1907-8 Distribution of Prizes in the
Dufferin Memorial Hall, on Monday, 9th November 1908 - The Dowager
Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava; Henry Garrett, Esq., Ph.D.; Francis C.
Forth, Esq., A.R.C.Sc.I.; Thomas E. McConnell, Esq., J.P.
5) Bangor Library and Technical Instruction Committee, The Annual Public
Meeting, Monday, 19th December 1910, Dufferin Hall - Miss Connor; Mr. T. W.
Brown
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1) 16th August 1930 Postmark Bangor to Mrs. A. Lowry, "Argary" Ballindrait,
Co. Donegal - Aug 16th 1930 40 Beaumont Terrace, Bangor, Co. Down -
Dear Mrs. Lowry, Just a line to let you know how much the "Solitarie?" has
been appreciated here, the men are keener even than the ladies, it was so
very kind of Mr. L. & yourself to let us have it on our holiday. The weather
has not been too good, but we have been fortunate in having a nice crowd.
Trusting you are all well. Yours very sincerely N. Aitkinson
2) The History of The Old Custom House and Tower, Bangor Built 1637
3) written on the back:- Marriage 12th December 1942 Grantham Church
- Reading from Left to Right - Rosemary Kissick; Henry Leon Cosbey Fraser;
Meryal? Fraser (née Meryal Plant); (Doctor) Sarah Maxine Cosbey Fraser
(Sister of Bridegroom); Berenice Webster (Niece of Bride) (Who died in
hospital after an operation- when in his teens); Best man was Doctor Robert
Cosbey Frazer who inadvertently got left out of photograph because the
Bride's brother was called "Rhoddie" and the Groom's brother was called
"Roddy" and when someone said "you shouldn't be in the photograph Rhoddie"
the best man "Roddy" thought the remark was addressed to him so he stepped
aside momentarily. The children of this marriage were Caroline,
Michael, Leonie
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1) May 1947 - Bryansburn Social & Dart Club, Bangor West - Ladies' or Gent's
15 Guinea Gold Watch, Stop-Watch Competition (In aid of the Club Building
Fund) The Watch will be wound up and sealed on 25th February, 1947, by the
Manager of Adlestones, Jewellers, Ann Street, Belfast, in the presence of
Members of the above Club, and will be opened at the Bryansburn Social Club
by Councillor James Halley on Friday, 30th May, 1947, at 8-30 p.m. The
person giving the correct time at which the Watch stops (or nearest second
after that) will be the Winner.
2a) Parish of Bangor Abbey, The Youth Choir present a Grand Christmas
Concert in Dufferin Hall, Hamilton Road, Bangor
2b) County Masonic Lodge, No. 381 Cricket Match v. Rockport - E. J. G.
Tucker, Rockport, Craigavad
3) Royal Belfast Golf Club, Craigavad 28/10/33 or 53
4) Royal Belfast Golf Club, June 1948 Belfast and District Hard Court
Championships - B. G. Corry, Mrs. H. A. Bland, Mrs. C. L. Gaussen, R. T.
Corry, M. Brown, Mrs. G. Nelson, T. Majury, R. P. Corry, A. S. C. Burton, T.
H. Boyle
5) Bangor Dog Show 19th August 1944 (Organised by the Ulster Irish Terrier
Club) in aid of Dogs of Ulster Red Cross Appeal
6) Borough of Bangor Fireguard Week 20th to 26th February 1944 - Tonic
Cinema, Right Hon. H. C. Midgley, J.P., M.P., Minister of Public Security
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1) Ballyrobert Service Station Ltd., Engineers, Craigavad, Co. Down
2) Crawfordsburn Country Club Menu, Fourth Annual Dinner & Dance 12th
February 1944
3) Crawfordsburn Country Club 1943-44
4) The Old Crawfordsburn Inn, C. Gordon Falloon Accommodation and
Tariff
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1) Bangor and District Girl Guides Local Association, Mrs. T. H. Brennan, 6
Shandon Park West, Bangor
2) Bangor Glee Singers, J. Bennett, W. Ellis, J. Nolan, E. Hamilton - 28
Osborne Drive, Bangor
3) The Village Hardens, Groomsport
4) Groomsport Branch N.I.H.L. A Whist Drive, Errigal Cafe, Main Street,
Groomsport 15th December 1948
5) Holywood Cricket & Lawn Tennis Club 25th August 1944
6) Helen's Bay
7) Commonwealth Labour Party (N.I.), Bangor Branch
8) Margaret Matier, Dunallan Guest House, 28 Shore Street, Donaghadee
9) Mervue, 31 Queen's Parade, Bangor
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1) Masonic Golf Cup Competition, Twenty-Fourth Season, 16 May Street,
Belfast, March 1948 - T. H. McMurray, Hon. Sec., 28 Cliftonville Avenue
Golf Club Brothers in charge of Cards
Antrim, Bro. D. N. Murphy, High Street, Antrim; Ardglass, D. Cecil Gardiner,
Pebble Lodge, Ardglass; Ballycastle, S. J. Gilmour, Golf Club, Ballycastle;
Ballymena, G. McConnell, Broughshane Road, Ballymena; Balmoral, H. Law, 32
Cranmore Gardens, Belfast; Banbridge, H. J. Watson, 25 Bridge Street,
Banbridge; Bangor, W. Fitzsimmons, 4 Parkmount, Bangor; Belvoir, S. S.
Moore, Golf Club, Belvoir Park, Belfast; Carnalea, C. Drummond, 42 Nevis
Avenue, Belfast; Clandeboye, A. Eric Blakely, Golf Club, Conlig, Bangor;
Cliftonville, E. J. Diffey, Golf Club, Cliftonville, Belfast; Carrickfergus,
W. J. Bolger, Monoville Terrace, Belfast Road, Carrickfergus; Co. Down
(Royal), J. S. Rodgers, Golf Club, Newcastle, Co. Down; Donaghadee, A.
McMillan, Golf Club, Donaghadee; Downpatrick, Harold S. McMurray, Gweedore,
Saul Road, Downpatrick; Dunmurry, J. D. Collins, Adare, Finaghy Road South,
Belfast; Fortwilliam, Thomas Jenkins, Fortwilliam Golf Club, Belfast;
Glenarm, Joseph McCalmont, Glenarm, Co. Antrim; Greenisland, Arthur Gray,
Coolgreen, Greenisland; Helen's Bay, William Pyper, Marino, Co. Down;
Holywood, H. K. Smith, Wilmar, My Lady's Mile, Holywood; Knock, R. Gordon
Irwin, Golf Club, Knock; Larne (Islandmagee), Thomas A. Purdon, The Mount,
Larne Harbour; Larne (Town), William Law, The Whins, Ballygalley, Co.
Antrim; Lisburn, W. H. Greenfield, Golf Club, Lisburn; Malone, C. E.
McConnell, 45 Bawnmore Road, Belfast; Ormeau, T. H. McKinstry, Ormeau Golf
Club, Park Road, Belfast; Portrush (Royal), James Magee, 87 Causeway Street,
Portrush; Scrabo, T. J. Macintosh, High Street, Newtownards; Spa, J. H.
McIlveen, Ballynahinch; Shandon Park, Tom MacFarland, 82 Shandon Park,
Belfast; Warrenpoint, Walter Alderdice, Belfast Road, Newry; Whitehead, W.
T. McFerran, Whitehead
2) Ormeau Golf Club, Fixtures and Local Rules 1980 - W. Mills, J. Cooke, H.
Hunsdale, W. Brown, G. E. McVeigh, G. Moore, T. Jamison, S. Jamison, H.
Atkinson, W. McKinney, W. Brewer, H. Crothers, H. W. Boyd, F. Graham, J. R.
Greene, B. S. Martin, A. McGrogan, J. Cooke, J. S. Moore, C. Osborne, R.
Jeffrey, R. Dugan, I. McGowan, L. Marks, Miss I. S. L. Latimer, Mrs. B.
McLarnon, Miss L. E. Latimer, Miss S. E. Smyth, Mrs. W. Brown, Mrs. W. H.
Boyd, Mrs. M. Kelly, Mrs. E. Hammond, Miss M. E. Osborough, Mrs. J. Doyle,
Mrs. E. Patterson, Mrs. A. McWilliams
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1) Ormeau Golf Club Instituted 1893 Rules 1979
2) Royal Belfast Golf Club, Craigavad, August 1948 - Dear Sir or Madam, I am
writing to let you know that the Council has accepted the resignation of Mr.
Melville A. Trimble from the Honorary Secretaryship of the Club which he has
held with outstanding success since 1937. It is hardly necessary to
say that the Council were most reluctant to lose Mr. Trimble, but were bound
to accept the personal reasons which impelled him to ask to be relieved of
his duties. The Council feel fortunate in having secured as our new Honorary
Secretary Mr. R. H. C. Ramsay, who has taken over since 1st August. Mr.
Trimble, in the eleven years of his Secretaryship at Craigavad, has rendered
services which cannot be adequately either recounted or repaid, and your
Council feel that the Members would not wish the occasion to pass without
some expression of the appreciation which is felt for all that he has done
for the Club. It is proposed, therefore, to make him a suitable
presentation at a function to be held shortly after his retirement.
Subscriptions of any amount, up to the maximum of £2 2s. 0d. for Men, and £1
1s. 0d. for Lady Associates, should be sent to Mr. R. H. C. Ramsay, in the
enclosed envelope, cheques being made payable to the Royal Belfast Golf
Club. Yours sincerely, P. T. Watson, Captain
3) The Royal Belfast Golf Club, Craigavad, Co. Down - J. M. Atkinson,
Honorary Treasurer
4) Royal Belfast Golf Club, Craigavad - Wm. Brown, 31.5.56
5) The Royal Belfast Golf Club - A.G.M. 6th November 1948 - R. H. C. Ramsay
6) The Royal Belfast Golf Club, Craigavad. Members' Dinner Dance, 19th
November 1949
7) Royal Belfast Gold Club, Craigavad, Co. Down - Terence McQueen, Deceased.
The above Member, who has been killed in action, requested that his set of
Clubs, comprising Brassey, No. 2, No. 5, No. 7, and No. 9 Irons, together
with his Bag, should be disposed of for the benefit of the Red Cross.
8) Royal Belfast Golf Club Dance Ticket Application
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1) Bought of James McMullan, 106 and 108 Main Street, Bangor Opposite Post
Office
2) Bangor Spectator 4.9.1908 Proposed Park for Bangor, Animated
discussion at the Urban Council, The Chairman's Resolution Carried by an
overwhelming majority, Mr. Henry for the Opposition, Hot Salt Water Baths
and Technical School sure to come, A Golden Opportunity
At the
meeting of Bangor Urban Council on Tuesday evening the following notice
of motion which had been handed in by the Chairman - Mr. John McMeekan,
J.P. - came up for consideration:- "That at the meeting of the Council
to be held on 1st September, I shall move that all resolutions on the
books of the Council having reference to the leasing of the portion of
ground adjoining Hamilton Road as a public park to be rescinded; and I
shall propose that steps be taken to obtain the ground for the purpose
of a public park.
In addition to the Chairman and Officials there were
present:- Messrs Henry, Montgomery, John Nicholson, W. C. Seyers, John
Henderson, Joseph Rea, David Morrow, Edward Henry, James Fletcher,
Robert Fegan, H. H. Mussen, John Smyth, and James McMurray.
The Chairman, in supporting his motion, said they were
all familiar with what had transpired in connection
with the desire of some of them
to take that ground as a park some five years ago. To his mind the
arguments then adduced conclusively proved that the park would be a
desirable thing, but the Council, owing to the financial condition of
affairs at the time, did not think it would be advisable to embark on
the undertaking. He had greatly feared that the chance of getting
the ground was past their hands for ever, but as the result of an
expression of opinion made to himself by a good many people, he had
interviewed Captain Ward, and
they had his letter, in which he agreed to give the park on the terms
originally offered, viz., 20 acres at a rent of *£90 a year.
(£95) That rent was not to commence until November next year, so that by
the time they would be called upon to pay the rent the costs would
nearly be defrayed. He was quite satisfied that if they passed the
resolution to take over the park, the next generation would say the
Council of their day were wise, and showed excellent foresight in making
that provision for the future of Bangor. (Hear, hear.) The site was an
excellent one; its position was central. It was shaded, and it was most
desirable in every respect to his mind for a public park. (Hear, hear.)
And a 20 acre park was not a bad thing for Bangor. Of course they would
like to take 100 acres if that were possible; but the 20 acres was in a
central position, with easy access, and partially made as it was, and a
place that could be beautified to a large extent in the coming years;
and he thought they would be most unwise if they refused to accept that
offer, and bring to a termination the negotiations by passing the
resolution that they take that portion of ground at a yearly rent of
£90, payment to commence on 1st November, 1909.
Mr. Rea - To make the matter clear to the other members of the
Council-
The Chairman - Excuse me, I see it is a double-barrelled
resolution. In the first place I propose the recision of all previous
resolutions.
Mr. Smyth seconded the motion and it was passed.
Mr. Rea - As regards this ground I understand that Mr. McKee has
secured a parcel of it -
Mr. Seyers - Is he seconding the motion?
Mr. Smyth - It is seconded.
The Chairman - No, just the first part.
Mr. Smyth - I seconded the whole resolution.
The Chairman - We will take Mr. Montgomery as supporting.
Mr. Rea, resuming, asked if the Council were obtaining any
reduction on the original offer in view of the fact that Mr. McKee had
taken over a piece of it.
The Chairman - We loose that, but we will save the making of the
road to that extent.
Mr. Rea - said he supported the proposition that the Council take
the ground on the terms suggested by the Chairman. He certainly
considered it would be a great mistake if the Urban Council of Bangor
would not avail themselves of the opportunity. Bangor was progressing,
and in future years the residents of the town would regard with approval
the present Council's action in taking the park. He had great pleasure
in proposing that the Council now accept the offer.
The Chairman - We will take you as supporting it.
Mr. Henry - Perhaps you would hear me oppose it (Laughter)
Mr. Henry said five years ago when the subject was brought before
the Council he had taken a very active traverse the same ground, or use
the same arguments as had been brought forward at that time; but he was
strongly opposed to the matter still. He had thought that probably the
chairman would have said something upon the financial aspect of the
question. Five years ago the rates were 5s. 9d. in the £1.
The Chairman - They should have been more you know. (Laughter)
Mr. Henry, continuing, said the rates at present were 6s. 6d. In
his opinion a great many more urgent matters were required for the town.
He thought that with their present responsibilities to saddle the town
with an expenditure of £90 a year for all time,
for what were described as the
"Bangor Bogs" would be a greatly mistaken policy. It was well
known that they had on their programme the providing of hot salt water
baths for Bangor. (Hear, hear). These had become, he believed, an
absolute necessity. They were also considering the question at the
present time - and he thought it was a matter in the interests of the
town which would come to a proper issue - of providing a technical
school. If they carried their memories back to the time when that
question was up he suggested that the Council should carry out the
building entirely apart from the gift offered by Mr. Carnegie; and he
thought what had happened since had shown the wisdom of that suggestion.
The question of properly equipping the technical school would, be
believed, have to be faced shortly. There was no demand on the
ratepayers of Bangor for a park. ("Question"). He would take as a very
good reason for that assertion the fact that he was there that night. If
the ratepayers believed he was wrong in opposing the park on the last
occasion, that had an opportunity of removing him. He was still there,
and while he was there, and other more pressing requirements were to be
dealt with, he did not feel that he would be doing his duty unless he
opposed when he believed would be a mistake. (Hear, hear). He did not
believe the people would use the place as a park. When the matter was
first mentioned there was a great pressing need for a dumping ground,
and the cry was, "Where will we get a dumping ground?" They would not
have far to go from the park to obtain a place where they could dump for
a good many years. Further, he had always thought that £90 a year would
be an extravagant sum. The greater portion of the ground had lain idle
and useless for many years. He remembered on the last occasion that he
had gone to a great deal of trouble and moved a great many amendments,
and eventually succeeded in shelving the question for a time any way.
Since that time they had provided the "slopes," and he thought everybody
would commend the Council for the improvements made in that direction.
They had also secured from Sir Thomas Dickson a piece of ground at
Ballyholme to be formed into an open space there. He thought the actions
of the Council since the new blood was infused - something had been said
against the new blood - had helped the whole body. (Laughter)
The Chairman - I didn't say anything about it. (Laughter)
Mr. Henry, proceeding, said he believed the whole body
was in a far healthier condition, and he thought the actions of the
Council carried with them the approval of the ratepayers of the town,
and would continue to do so while they avoided plunging into expenditure
such as that proposed, for it would mean almost a penny in a pound.
Besides this the work of putting the park in order could not be carried
out without considerable expense. He thought the Council's policy should
be one of retrenchment, rather than of taking further burdens upon them.
In order to have a vote on the subject he would ask for a poll, or he
would like that the names of the Councillors who would saddle the town
with a yearly expenditure of £90, would be handed down to posterity.
The Chairman - So would I. (Laughter)
Mr. Henry said he would move as an amendment that until the rates
are 6s. in the £1 the question of providing a park for Bangor be
deferred. He thought all their improvements should be shaped round the
shore, for people would hardly be likely to go to any place they might
provide in Hamilton Road.
The Chairman - It is rather an indefinite resolution, but it will
do.
Mr. Fletcher - I would like to say a few words.
Mr. Seyers - Are you going to second the amendment.
Mr. Fletcher - No, I am not.
Mr. Morrow - I second it for the sake of argument.
The Chairman - Only for the sake of argument, Mr. Morrow?
(Laughter)
Mr. Morrow - In the meantime. (Laughter)
Mr. Fletcher said as a member of the ward in which the park would
be situated, he did not say that we would oppose it altogether this
time, as he had done before. Five years had passed, and they were in the
same position and they had saved £450. He did not think they had done
very much harm by holding back. He would like to know what they were
going to get this time. On the last occasion, so far as he understood,
Captain Ward reserved the best part of the ground, and wanted £300 to be
spent on the road, which would be used by him as frontage ground for
buildings.
The Chairman - The terms are the same this time.
The Clerk said the terms were that the Council would get 20 acres
12 perches, the Council to make half of the road from Hamilton Road to
Castle Street.
Mr. Fletcher - He reserves the frontage?
The Clerk - We have the whole frontage on our side.
Mr. Fletcher - Have you it down Castle Street Hill; I think that
was reserved.
The Clerk - We have from the Cottages right down.
Mr. Fletcher - But not from the Cottages up. Continuing, he said he
thought that if Captain Ward would take the rent he was receiving for
the ground for another five years, letting it remain as it was, and then
charge £90 a year, it would give the Council some time to clear up some
of the matters pressing on them. He agreed with Mr. Henry that there
were a great many other more pressing requirements. In his opinion it
was a pity they had taken the piece of ground at Ballyholme at £25 a
year. That with the £90 for a park would mean a yearly charge on the
Council of £115.
Mr. Montgomery said some very strong arguments had been adduced
both for and against the project. There was no question, as Mr. Henry
had said, as to the need for how salt water baths; they wanted them very
badly. But first they wanted what might be called a winter park.
They had already made a park at
Pickie for the aristocracy of the town, and everyone knew what had
happened both there and at Main Street and Queen's Parade. No one
was allowed to wheel a perambulator on the footpath. (Laughter)
They wanted to get Belfast
people to the town in the winter, so that the houses might remain
tenanted, and that the rates would increase. They could not ask them to
go round the "Slopes" when the sea was breaking over; but they required
a winter park where bicycles could be ridden and perambulators could be
wheeled. (Laughter) Continuing, Mr. Montgomery said Councillor
Henry had taken credit for getting the park scheme blocked five years
ago, and Mr. Fletcher said by not availing themselves of the
offer then made they had saved £450. He questioned if they had. If the
park had been taken he questioned if a hundred or a hundred and fifty
more houses would not have been build in the district. (Hear, hear) What
was the condition of affairs at present? Princetown Road was build up
almost to a house. They had also the site for a park at Ballyholme.
But these were for the use of
summer visitors. They now wanted winter visitors, and if they were to
have them they must be catered for (Hear, hear) The park was
sheltered, it had a frontage to Hamilton Road, a carriage way forty feet
wide ran up the centre, and they could have a pond made. Three months
and a fortnight ago they had taken an unnecessary drive round the county
looking for a dumping ground, but his opinion then was that the most
suitable place possible was the "dam bottom". If they did not avail
themselves of the present opportunity the chance of obtaining the
dumping ground would be gone. That was a thing to be considered. They
might, as Mr. Fletcher had said, put back the question for five years,
but the question was could they get it in five years, could they get it
in six months. As Mr. Henry had said they wanted to provide hot salt
water baths, a technical school, and other things. They would get hot
salt water baths without the shadow of a doubt; they would get a
technical school. They could get them any time, but if they did not
accept the offer of Captain Ward not it would be gone for ever. He
considered they were getting it dirt clean and he had no doubt that in
the event of the Council taking it over the valuation of the town would
be materially increased.
Mr. Murray said five years ago he had proposed the amendment that
the question be deferred, but he was very pleased to support it now. He
honestly believed that a good many Councillors did not know the value of
that place, and what it would be in the future.
Mr. Henderson said he supposed the chairman and some of the present
members of the Council would remember that when the question was
previously before the Board he had been the first to introduce the
subject. (Hear, hear) On that occasion he had remarked that as far as
building was concerned, Bangor was going ahead rapidly - (Hear, hear) -
and that there was no possibility of their getting an air-space if they
neglected to take the ground in Hamilton Road. (hear, hear) Since that
time - within the last few days indeed - mention had been made of
another possible site, but his previous conviction remained unchanged.
With regard to the space he selected at that time, there was no
comparison with the other site, financially; and taking the ratepayers
into consideration, as Mr. Henry seemed to do on all occasions:-
Mr. Henry - Hear, hear (Laughter)
Mr. Henderson, continuing, said Mr. Henry had mentioned one or two
facts - of course they were facts -
Mr. Smyth - Are they? (Laughter)
Mr. Henry - He generally mentions facts. (Laughter)
Mr. Henderson, continuing, said Mr. Henry had stated that the
ratepayers had not asked them to take the park, and that they were bound
to consult the ratepayers. Of course they were, but they were not bound
to wait to be told what to do. (Hear, hear) When they took over the
Marine Gardens, and spent £1,100 on them, they didn't do that; nor in
the case of the ground at Ballyholme. They didn't consider the
ratepayers when they proposed a resolution to build a technical school.
Mr. Smyth - Oh, yes; we did.
Mr. Henderson - Did we?
Mr. Smyth - We were thinking of the ratepayers then. (Hear, hear)
Mr. Henderson - I think you are making a mistake.
Mr. Smyth - We are always thinking of the ratepayers here, Mr.
Henderson. (Laughter)
Mr. Henderson - Oh yes, I see what you mean; but we didn't consult
the ratepayers at a public meeting in regard to the technical school; it
was for the free library we did that. He hoped they would not get the
park, and that the ratepayers would enjoy it. (Hear, hear).
Mr. Morrow said they would understand that he had always offered
very strong opposition that proposed park, from the inception of the
scheme till the present time; and he could see no reason - nor yet had
the chairman in proposing the resolution shown him individually any
reason - why he should change his opinion. If the Chairman in his
decisive, quiet manner had shown for rescinding all resolutions, or if
Mr. Montgomery or any of the members of the Board had adduced any
arguments which would comment themselves to him, he would be happy and
willing to change his opinion. He strongly objected to the park for the
simple reason that in his opinion it was not needed in Bangor. Again, he
had been thinking seriously that nations sometimes would find a man or
men to arise and destroy them; and in public boards they would very
often find the same thing occurring. They would find that the
introduction into a public board of a party of men, or a man, would have
the effect of destroying that town or that Board. He thought that Bangor
had as much on its shoulders at the present time as it could
conveniently bear, and although he would not be favourable to the park
at present, he would not altogether object to it being taken up at some
future time. He held this latter view for the simple reason that he had
consulted some of the large ratepayers of Ballymagee Ward on the
question, and the greater part of them were in favour of the park -
(Hear, hear) - although individually he was not.
The Chairman - That is very honest now.
Mr. Morrow said he would vote neither for nor against the park. He
was of opinion that they should postpone the question for sometime,
although there was not the slightest possibility of that being done. He
was satisfied in his own mind, however, that the matter had been settled
before the Board-room was entered.
Mr. Smyth - I think that is a statement Mr. Morrow should withdraw.
I for one object to it.
Mr. Morrow - I enter my protest against the thing, and I withdraw
nothing.
The Chairman - I am sorry that Mr. Morrow introduced that remark
because I have a great deal of sympathy for all he said before it, and
so far as I am concerned I do not know whom it concerns. So far as I am
concerned I never spoke to a single member of the Board; I never do on
any question.
Mr. Morrow - I was referring to no one. But you can see from
letters that have appeared in the papers that the question has been
talked of by some persons:
Mr. Henderson - Will you allow me to make a remark?
The Chairman - Is it a point of order?
Mr. Henderson said it was not. He just wanted to say that he had had a
slight conversation with Mr. Morrow, and the park question came up. Mr.
Morrow asked him if he was going to vote for or against the scheme. He
(Mr. Henderson) said he could not say until it came before the Board.
Mr. Mussen said he thought the arguments adduced by the chairman
and other Councillors who had spoken in favour of the scheme proved
conclusively that a winter park was necessary in Bangor. (Hear, hear) He
thought at the same time better terms could possibly be obtained from
Captain Ward, for this reason:
Five years ago 20 acres were offered for £90 a year, without any
haggling.
The Chairman - There was a great deal of haggling.
Mr. Mussen - Oh, is that so. Continuing, he said since the original
offer was made what he described as one of the most valuable portions
had been taken over by Mr. McKee, and he (Mr. Mussen) thought they
should ask for an equivalent. He suggested that the portion at the
Cottage Hospital, including the building, which he understood would soon
be vacated should be asked for as an entrance to the park. A small
deputation might be appointed to bring the matter before Captain Ward.
Captain Nicholson said it seemed to him that some members of the
Council did not know of the trouble the chairman and others had gone to
at the time they negotiated with Captain Ward. At the first he wanted
£100 a year.
Mr. Smyth said he wanted to enter a protest against the statement
made by Mr. Morrow that certain members of that Board had been
conniving, and that the thing was arranged before it was brought to the
Board. Personally the matter had not been talked over or canvassed with
him, and he challenged Mr. Morrow or any other member of the Board to
prove that the thing was settled before it came to the Board. So far as
seconding the chairman's resolution was concerned, he was not a member
of the Board five years ago when the matter was considered, but he
thought the Board at that time had made a mistake in not taking over
that park. (Hear, hear, and a voice, "Questions") He believed that the
opinion he was expressing was the opinion of the majority of the
ratepayers of Bangor.
Mr. Morrow - I question that; if you take a plebiscite you will
know.
Mr. Smyth - I have it from small and big ratepayers that we need a
park. We are going to have hot salt water baths, and we are going to
have a technical school; therefore the park question won't interfere
with either of them. So far as submitting the matter to the electors was
concerned, the question had been on the tapis (table?) for five years,
and not a man - not even Mr. Henry - had put the question before the
electors. He was quite satisfied that had Mr. Henry made his opposition
to the park his platform at the election he would not have been in the
Council now.
Mr. Henry - Try it next time yourself. (Laughter)
Mr. Morrow - Postpone it till Janualy, and let it be put to the
ratepayers. (January)
Mr. Smyth - Mr. Morrow is all right so far as he goes, but I am
afraid he will not be plucky enough to put it before the ratepayers.
(Laughter).
Mr. Morrow - Try me. then.
Mr. Montgomery, rising to a point of order, said with reference to
what Mr. Morrow had said, he took great exception to Mr. Morrow's
statement that the matter had been concocted. He denied that
emphatically. He (Mr. Montgomery) had sent the letter to the paper -
Mr. Morrow - I question it.
Mr. Montgomery said he did write it, and at his request it had been
published.
The Chairman said Mr. Morrow had asked for reasons. One would
suffice, and that was that no place with the pretensions of Bangor
should be without a park. (Hear, hear) The "Slopes" and the place at
Ballyholme were more in the nature of summer resorts rather than parks
proper. They required a place where winter residents could go, and where
invalids could be taken. Mr. Henry had said there were other
requirements more urgent, but in the case of the park they had to decide
on it now or lose it for ever. (Hear, hear).
The amendment on being
put to the meeting was lost by 10 votes to 1, Mr. Henry being the only
supporter.
The Chairman added to his motion that a small deputation be appointed to
interview Captain Ward on as early a date as possible to endeavour to
get better terms for him.
The motion on being put to the
meeting was carried by 10 votes to 1.
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Bangor Ladies' Hockey Club - Bangor Lawn Tennis Club 1945 - Hockey Hop 14th
December 1945/1949 - First Hockey Dance of the Season 21st October
1949/1950/1952
Bangor Ladies' Hockey Club - Rules and Fixtures 1954-55
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1) Queen's Ballroom, Queen's Parade, Bangor, Old Time Dancing Club, 20th
September 1945; Membership Card
2) Gaston's Tours, New Savoy Hotel, Bangor
3) Sea Cadet Corps (Bangor Unit) Headquarters Fund 1st May 1947 - Mr.
Eustace Gordon, Main Street, Bangor - Alice M. Gordon
4) 8 Seacliffe Road, Bangor
5) Ulster Stadium, Peter's Hill, Belfast Roller Skating
6) U.V.F. 1st North Down Regt. A. Company, 3 Baypark, Ballyholme
6/3/15 - Change of Parade Night: Friday being the night arranged for Band
practice and the only free evening for the instructor together with the
opinion expressed by the majority of the members of the Company as to Friday
being an unsuitable night - the C.O. of A Company has received orders to
alter the night of Parade from Friday to Thursday as heretofore Commencing
Thursday 11th March. Squad Leaders will therefore notify their members as to
alteration. Shooting: Arrangements have been made for those members of
the Coy. who have not qualified in Shooting. Squad Leaders will see that
such members of the quads turn out so as fuller arrangements can be made.
McCormick
7) James H. Nelson, Builder and Contractor, Ballymaconnell Road, Bangor
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1) Souvenir of Bangor, Co. Down
2) Ring
3) Box
4) Bangor Wholesale Dairy, Shaftesbury Road, Bangor
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1) Bangor Technical Congress Dinner 28th May 1913 - Mr. Adam Speers, B.Sc.,
J.P.; Mr. F. C. Forth, Assoc.R.C.Sc.I.; Mr. S. C. Davidson, M.I.Mech.E.; Mr.
T. P. Gill; Mr. James McMurray, U.D.C.; Mr. George Fletcher, F.G.S.; Mr. T.
D. Hamilton; Mr. Thomas Wilson; Mr. Alexander McMonagle
2) Bangor War Memorial, Town Hall, Bangor, Co. Down November 1923 -
Dear Sir or Madam, "Lest We Forget" At a Public Meeting in the Dufferin Hall
it was decided to erect a War Memorial to the Men of Bangor and District who
fought and fell in the Great War, 1914-1918.
3) V.E. Day Celebration 1995 North Down - Roberta Dunlop
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1) Victorian Bangor "Spectator" Bangor - Ordnance Survey Map of
Bangor, Surveyed in 1831 and engraved in 1834, under the direction of Lt.
Larcom, R.E. - Surveyed in 1901, published in 1903.
2) The Ulster Countryside by C. Douglas Deane, Mrs. M. Dalzell, Bryansburn
Road - Europe has only one species, unique amongst British birds for the
brilliance of its colouring. It is an intent and sharp-beaked bird, a keen
wedge of a bird, but its beauty is only skin deep, a small body made smaller
by the grotesquely large head and massive beak, a back of dazzling cobalt
blue or emerald green as the light has it, a breast of rusty red with
dwarfed and feeble feet, with the toes joined for part of their length and
for what reason remains a mystery. A monstrosity of a bird made good by the
brilliance of its colouring. It is legend that it was a grey bird when
liberated from the ark and acquired its brilliant colours by flying westward
towards the setting sun, which scorched its breast, while its back reflected
the blue-green of the evening sky. Giraldus Cambrensis (1187) refers
to the kingfisher as 'martinet' and says: "It is remarkable in these little
birds that, if they are preserved in a dry place when dead, they never
decay, and if they are put among clothes or other articles, they preserve
them from the moth and give them a pleasant odour. What is still more
wonderful if, when dead, they are hung up by their beaks in a dry situation,
they change their plumage every year, as if they were restored to life, as
though the vital spark still survived and vegetated through some mysterious
remains of energy." (click image 2/3 to read rest of article)
3) Aubade by Kenneth Martin - Lynton Lamb d.w. Novel set in Bangor £20
Author's 1st novel. Born Bangor 1939 (at age of 16)
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